Your Opinion is Wrong
First of all, no anti-Spurs bias here. The Ginobili madness must cease. On this blog and beyond. This guy is a product of playoff storylines. There is nothing special about his style of play. Seriously. The guy causes havoc. So does Mark Madsen. So does Danny Fortson and so did Dennis Rodman. People act like we've never seen a player like him before?! George Karl, Marcus Camby, Skip Bayless, and all the smug Doug Collins types would have you think so. I hope he enjoyed the best season of his life in which he averaged 16ppg. In two years everyone will have forgotten about him, and Kevin Millar.
Second, I take back what I said about Glenn Robinson. He was only 2 for 6 last night, but he hit the biggest shot of the series. And no WAY Brent Barry, Bowen, or Parker (much less the 03-04 Hedo Turkoglu) would have made that.
On another note, is there anything more ironic than watching Glenn Robinson guard Carmelo Anthony? It's like the broke ass version of Shaq vs. Amare. Big Dog vs. Little Dog. It is the cinematic moment when the son looks into his father's eyes to see what he will become.
Quick scouting note: NO ONE MOVES WITHOUT THE BASKETBALL WORSE THAN MELO. He is the anti-Rip Hamilton.
And as much as I hate to say it, Carmelo showed me something. He very well could be the next Big Dog/Toine, but he has waaaaay more "upside" than I have been giving him credit for (at least more upside, than, say, Emeka Okafor...yeah I said it).
This Celts-Pacers series is like a pimple on the back of my neck. If I were Puppetmaster Stern, I would make sure to script Reggie Miller coming out of retirement next year to join and Artest-having Pacers team on a mission to crush kill destroy.
Steve Kerr tried to use the example of Kwame Brown vs. Michael Ruffin as an example of why basketball players should go to college before the NBA. Ummm, NO.
Holdup, I'm about to drop the SAT ANALOGY OF THE CENTURY: Ben Wallace is to Defense as Antawn Jamison is to Offense.
Does that even require an explanation???!!??!?!!!
posted by Dr. Lawyer IndianChief @ 5/05/2005 10:24:00 AM
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i won't even get into a debate over manu, lest it become the awful, awful scepter that cleaveth free darko into two. i do agree with you on both melo points, making me both more excited and depressed about him than ever. i'd like to think that the movement thing can be fixed.
i also thought of an incredible gm master plan/league (or at least franchise) saving storyline--some team should try to sign all kwame, darko, skeeta, and all the other underdeveloped busts of recent drafts. who wouldn't want to see them sink or swim on their own merits?
and pistons, you might want to take heed of the sad, sad story of kwame brown. if larry keeps doing darko the way he has, this could be what becomes of him, too. imperative change of scenery, as b3 sort of put it yesterday
OK, we have all already agreed that the 05-06 GS Warriors have potentially the strangest and most compelling lineup in recent history. Can you imagine Darko ending up on GS? Side by side with Skita? Can you think of a more watchable team?
that does kind of beg the question of whether we actually like euros/their game/the idea of them being succesful. i think they're far more interesting as underachieving enigmas
The likelihood of GS looking anything like they do next year with Mullin making noises about dealing Pietrus and Dunleavy for another big man (hello, Kwame) seems slim, but the drama would certainly be heightened with KB in the fold.
He seems like an 18/8 guy on a bad team... is GS a bad team with a good record, or a great team with an awful record?
first of all, big dog vs. carmello as a "broke ass version of shaq vs. amare" is pretty fucking funny.
secondly, as the resident defender of all things spur, i obviously have to respond to this take on manu. i'm going to assume you weren't actually comparing him to madsen or fortson. the whole notion of ginobili as strictly a 'havoc maker' is somewhat ridiculous. yeah, he plays at a frenetic pace, draws fouls, and grabs loose balls (no homo), but he does so much more. Madsen, fortson, and rodman have/had no offensive talent or even coordination. Gino is bananas. Have you seen anyone since Iceman even try to finger roll from the free throw line? Did you miss THE game of the regular season when Manu hung 48 on the Suns including a monster two-hander over the entire Phoenix squad in OT? If people say they’ve never seen anyone play the way Manu does, it’s because he has a whole assortment of moves that nobody’s ever seen. I thought the AI/Marbury/Franchise/And1 generation explored the crossover to it’s full potential until Manu revealed several new versions.
I went with anecdotal first, since it seems more in the spirit of FreeDarko, but I’m not above sinking to Spurs level nerdiness and dropping stats on you in defense of the argentine enigma. You act like averaging 16 a game on a team with Duncan and Parker is a bad thing. Tim is always going to be the focus of this offense. Stick Manu on half the teams in this league and he’ll get 24 a night. So far in the postseason he’s averaging 23 a game with 6 boards and 4 assists–pretty great numbers. You can argue the validity of 82games clutch ratings (http://www.82games.com/clutchplay3.htm) to a point, but the fact that Manu is #1 means he’s ill when it counts no matter how you look at it. I’m also pretty sure he was in the top 3 in points per shot, and on Hollinger’s PER for this season he finished ahead of marion, vince, pierce, steph, ray ray, franchise and the beloved gilbert arenas.
Sorry dude, as much as it may bother you, Manu is gonna be here for a while. He already has a ring and a gold medal, and this is only his third season in the L. Manu mania has just begun.
I’ll try to refrain from filling up your comments with more spurs shit (I love phoenix, gilbert and lebron, too), but if you’re gonna bait me like this...
First of all, a spurs post wouldnt be a spurs post without a comment from Brickowski.
Second of all, game of the season was when T-Mac dropped 90 points in 15 seconds on....who???
Third, do you actually think Manu can get better? I don't understand this. He's playing off of sheer confidence right now. He's a product of his own hype. Actually, you go ahead and respond to that, but I think my anti-Spurs bent does lend itself to a resolution in this conversation.
that's a fair point. manu's probably still improving but he may not get much better. though he's only in his 3rd season, he's already 27. don't guys tend to plateau around this age? the thing is, i don't think he needs to get a lot better. if he keeps playing like this for 3 or four years the spurs are set. they've got the big three locked up for like 6 years, with bowen for 4, and everyone else for at least a couple of seasons. plus, next year they're bringing in Luis "The Tower from Buenos Aires" Scola, the 2nd best player on that gold medal winning argentina squad, who's gonna win the spanish league MVP this year (nocioni won it last year). so there you go, THC, another argentine for you to hate.
Scola is the shit. I love his game...I'm still waiting for the Spurs to shock the world, though, and pick up Jose Ortiz one of these days...
I need an explanation for the analogy, as I don't know what Antwan Jamison is to offense.
Tawn is completely versatile on offense, dynamic, does-it-all, has the hands of a god...focused completely on that end of the court. raw and unamused at the other end.
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