11.04.2008

It's Over

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At 11/04/2008 10:39 PM, Blogger O said...

i feel much better about my vote now knowing we both shoot lefty...

 
At 11/04/2008 11:08 PM, Blogger Ed said...

OBAMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

 
At 11/04/2008 11:46 PM, Blogger Both Teams Played Hard said...

Game, blouses.

 
At 11/04/2008 11:47 PM, Blogger MB said...

Awesomeness abounds

 
At 11/05/2008 12:37 AM, Blogger R. Lobstah said...

I sincerely hope he will be the quality president you all think. Great speech and if spoken from the heart then he is what America needs.

 
At 11/05/2008 12:48 AM, Blogger goathair said...

Skeets is right; he shoots just like Ginobili.

 
At 11/05/2008 1:07 AM, Blogger Jason Gill said...

@Lobstah-
This video is the evidence he is the quality president people think he is. There is politics and then there is THIS.

 
At 11/05/2008 1:16 AM, Blogger Joe said...

hate for this to be my first on here but...

http://bafflegate.blogspot.com/

dude speaks some truth

 
At 11/05/2008 2:25 AM, Blogger DJ Slick Watts said...

Funny: it's nighttime in New Orleans, but it's mos definitely morning in America.

Count it.

 
At 11/05/2008 3:46 AM, Blogger Kaifa said...

Apropos great speeches:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IdoCLk3kCo

 
At 11/05/2008 3:50 AM, Blogger m said...

i am just so happy

 
At 11/05/2008 5:24 AM, Blogger Flud said...

Yo youze. Dublin is buzzin' with the news. I think basketball will gain much out of this. It is a good garden

 
At 11/05/2008 9:45 AM, Blogger El Presidente said...

R. Lobstah - First you predict Lakers, then McCsin. How 'bout you just go fuck yerself now?

 
At 11/05/2008 10:28 AM, Blogger Penny said...

KJ IS MAYOR OF SACRAMENTO!!!!!!!!!!

 
At 11/05/2008 10:38 AM, Blogger wondahbap said...

R. Lobstah,

More important than Obama being the "quality president you all think," is that he isn't a dud like McCain, which we all KNOW.

I'm just glad that race wasn't enough of a factor to deter logic. McCain would've been an awful choice, and his concession speech was tacky. Not only did he run a WWE-reality TV-style campaign focused on covert racism, but he had the nerve to tell American to not be ashamed of having a black president. What a classless man and trashy campaign. Good luck to any Republican who isn't a small town, farmland, uneducated Jesus freak, racist Redneck. You won't have a party anymore. McCain should be ashamed of himslef and anyone who approved of his tactics and comments should be too.

 
At 11/05/2008 10:55 AM, Blogger Sweat of Ewing said...

Uh... I actually think that McCain's speech was pretty gracious, if not the most artful thing on the planet, and that R. Lobstah is being equally gracious at the moment. Obama won, quit being pissed of for 5 minutes and actually look around you. The campaign was trashy, now it's time to get past that shit.

 
At 11/05/2008 11:02 AM, Blogger Bethlehem Shoals said...

McCain was addressing his supporters, making them see why this mattered, that losing an election is possible and says something, and how, if they believed all that service and honor stuff, they had to get in line now. If they really care about getting the country out of tricky and perilous times.

 
At 11/05/2008 11:06 AM, Blogger W2 said...

Perk outplayed Yao.

Barack outplayed McRage.

Good night all around.

 
At 11/05/2008 1:04 PM, Blogger Mr. Six said...

His swag is phenomenal.

 
At 11/05/2008 2:05 PM, Blogger R. Lobstah said...

I can't tell you how many times I've heard the phrase, you hate what you don't understand. There are a few regular posters who simply don't understand Conservatism.

Obama turned out to be a better candidate and I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt that he'll be a good president. I hope he is a great one. Now, folks like El Presidente and Wondahbap are like Tim Duncan with their "what me foul?" expression when they think they've been fouled every time they touch the ball.

Homebread, I suppose some McCain supporters needed to be told how Obama's election mattered and I simply don't understand why you would think any of them would think an election could not be lost. All his supporters, that I know, had figured out both way before McCain spoke. As disappointed as I was with the results, I was emotional listening to my future president make his speech last night. As disgusted as I am with Jesse Jackson and his grievance mongering I was effected by seeing his reaction to last night's events and appreciated what he has lived to see in the context of the work he has done and the service he has provided. But the biggest insight I had last night came from watching the BET coverage.

As partisan as it is to watch people crying on the set of their coverage of the election, I wasn't bothered by that. I get it, it's BET. The phrase I kept hearing again and again was, "I never thought this could ever happen". I think this speaks to the internal barriers that individuals have constructed to seeing the opportunities this country provides and the basic decency of this nation. I always thought a black man or woman could be president. I don't know people who wouldn't vote for a candidate because they are black. Hell, most of my friends and relatives did vote for Obama. But even my conservative friends would vote for a black man they agree with. I didn't vote for Obama because black catharsis was not important enough to sway me away from my politics.

I only ever commented on political posts and comments because I see a pool of FD folk with pretty bigoted and ignorant ideas about Conservatism. wondahbap is just one example. McCain was telling his supporters not to be ashamed that he lost the election period. It had nothing to do with Obama's blackness. It had everything to do with our general disagreement with the Democratic Party and how it seems Obama represents the far left of that party.

I re-up on my Lakers' prediction.

 
At 11/05/2008 2:53 PM, Blogger wondahbap said...

Shoals,

That's the problem. His supporters had to be told.

Lobstah,

I agree with your Lakers predictions. I prefer you as P.Ami. I'll see you on FB&G. The rest doesn't require an answer. You've only reinforced what I think, but can tell you that I fully understand what "conservtism" means, or used to. Although, I do share your contempt for Jesse Jackson, but probably for different reasons.

 
At 11/05/2008 2:54 PM, Blogger wondahbap said...

How about a "SWAG" Obama shirt?

 
At 11/05/2008 3:51 PM, Blogger R. Lobstah said...

wondahbap,
This particular McCain supporter is not ashamed of his tactics. I'm disappointed he couldn't articulate the concerns about Obama's alliances well enough and that he handled the credit crisis poorly. He didn't respond as a Conservative. Conservatism is an idea and the GOP moved away from those ideas under Bush and an arrogant GOP Congress. I think the lessons of the last two elections will have to be learned by someone, be it Libertarian or Republican. Hell, if Obama learns the lesson then even better. I'll vote for him next time if he proves himself centrist enough for my taste. I still think you are ignorant of the motives and character of those who supported McCain.

 
At 11/05/2008 5:02 PM, Blogger Michael said...

Damn, wondahbap, stop fighting the election now. Obama won. I thought Lobstah's initial comment was gracious (I know I'd be feeling bad today if my candidate had lost) and his comments since then have been patient in tone. I appreciate that. You, on the other hand, seem intent on rubbing it in.

Obama's vision and tone are always inclusive, and you can be sure he's not rubbing it in. Between McCain's concession speech and Obama's victory speech, last night constituted the most elevated and classy moment in our political discource in a long time. So let's try to forget the campaign and just start from there.

 
At 11/06/2008 3:17 AM, Blogger BreadCity said...

I just got to air it out!

Why is Obama Free Darko to me? Because the change he has already made to the discourse. He elevated it above the boy-who-cried-wolf-complaining-culture, the All Star game, swift boats, stats, the usual accusations and slanders. Obama made me believe again that politics can be about more than just "winning," but about collectively making our country better...even if that means paying $20 mil for Marbury and sitting him on the bench the whole season.

The season begins now.

 
At 11/06/2008 11:44 AM, Blogger W2 said...

The season does start now.

I for one can't figure out how Obama represents the far left (and believe me this is where I like to hang out). He is going to increase troops in Afg. (check the folks on the left...Nader, Barr, Ron Paul, Dennis with Ears) these dudes do not support this.

He is pro isreal (at least during the election). He is pro bailout. He has backed away from a single payer health care proposal.

People voted for someone who is composed and inspiritng, intellignet, and trenscends race, party, and religion. We get hope for change. Regarding policies in practice, the dude could be FDR, Hoover, Carter, Clinton or Bush senior. Time will tell.

 

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