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12.12.2010
FD at the Strand
Most of us plus Will Leitch did a panel at the Strand on 11/30. Now you can watch it in its entirety. Then invite us to speak at your next corporate event.
Very awesome. Nice to hear the voices of the collective. It also makes me want to go to grad school. Any advice on how to study for the GRE? Also should I study colonial or post colonial social history of art? Maybe both? They do intersect quite a bit especially in terms of what was called the Orient and the subsequent European impeialists that ruled. Don't. Really know if Said needs to be rehashed again though.
Very nice sit down. I would love to see you come to Dallas but you would certainly have to not talk about the Warriors. We shall be forever bitter. But we still have plenty of pizza waiting for you at Campisi's (fairly certain it is no longer mob run, or if it is they keep it very hush-hush).
I don't feel like signing up for fanhouse, so I'll just comment here: Hollinger was saying that Rose is chaotic, ecstatic, creative art where as Westbrook, in terms of the leagues conditions was technical genius.
Derrick is "dynamically sublime" whereas Westbrook is "mathematically sublime".
But he was describing Rose as having an unrepresentable quality, having a better looking game. Westbrook has more substantive numbers through his "Bull in a china stop" style. If chaos is playing to NBA conditions, then it means its opposite. I think interpreting his description of Westbrook of chaos misses the deeper point, that the chaos of Rose is the impossible real of it--that no matter how how impressive his layups or crossovers are, it will never show up on the stat sheet the way he plays.
I wanted to discuss the argument that was brought up about baseball being a better sport due teams like the Rockies being able to get to the world series. I can't recollect who made the argument initially. Regardless, you guys brought up a good point about teams being fun to follow irregardless of record and that certain players can also be a joy to watch as well. The NBA can shift dramatically via free agency or the draft. Unlike any major sport, an entire team can change with one player. Cleveland became relevent with draft choice and the knicks are surging after adding Amare and Felton. That dynamic does not always favor the upper echelon teams either. Much like baseball, you have elite teams that spend and other teams that need te right front office people in order to make the most of what they have.
I think the unpredictability of baseball makes baseball kind of meaningless. Watching baseball's postseason is like rooting for a bunch of guys to win a lottery. (The same's true of the Final Four.) Sure, if you're an idiot, when your team wins you can think that your team has been proven the best team because everything they did was so clutch and blah blah blah, the reality is that the reason baseball is so unpredictable is because winning the World Series is largely a matter of luck. Winning a baseball game is largely a matter of luck; that's why the best teams only win 60% of their games. Over the course of a 162-game regular season, talent does determine the standings, but once it comes down to who can post the best record in a 19-game playoff, outcomes become a matter of almost pure happenstance. I mean, it's a game largely defined by where you hit a ball, something that for the most part is beyond either the hitter or pitcher's control. But in basketball, I truly believe (outside of the Heat-Mavs Finals) that through the playoffs, we discover who the best team really is. And who the best players are - over the years the playoffs have revealed deep truths about Kobe, Olajuwon, Ewing, Duncan, Jordan, Carter, McGrady, etc. When Kobe and LeBron finally face each other in the Finals, we'll learn something about LeBron. When Cliff Lee faces Alex Rodriguez, it's a meaningful and possibly thrilling moment, but the outcome of those several at-bats doesn't really tell us anything about either of them. If half the league could make it to the Finals, making it to the Finals wouldn't mean anything anymore. Or at least it would mean something entirely different.
Enchilladas don't have to fit in a casserole.
ReplyDeleteAny plans still to do a book event in LA?
Very awesome. Nice to hear the voices of the collective. It also makes me want to go to grad school. Any advice on how to study for the GRE? Also should I study colonial or post colonial social history of art? Maybe both? They do intersect quite a bit especially in terms of what was called the Orient and the subsequent European impeialists that ruled. Don't. Really know if Said needs to be rehashed again though.
ReplyDeleteVery nice sit down. I would love to see you come to Dallas but you would certainly have to not talk about the Warriors. We shall be forever bitter. But we still have plenty of pizza waiting for you at Campisi's (fairly certain it is no longer mob run, or if it is they keep it very hush-hush).
I would gladly come down to LA if someone would help foot the bill.
ReplyDeleteBut you should ask some PDX folks if me solo is worth the trouble.
I don't feel like signing up for fanhouse, so I'll just comment here: Hollinger was saying that Rose is chaotic, ecstatic, creative art where as Westbrook, in terms of the leagues conditions was technical genius.
ReplyDeleteDerrick is "dynamically sublime" whereas Westbrook is "mathematically sublime".
"Bull in a china shop", which he ascribes to Westbrook, is the chaotic part of his formulation. Rose is marked as the opposite.
ReplyDeleteBut he was describing Rose as having an unrepresentable quality, having a better looking game. Westbrook has more substantive numbers through his "Bull in a china stop" style. If chaos is playing to NBA conditions, then it means its opposite. I think interpreting his description of Westbrook of chaos misses the deeper point, that the chaos of Rose is the impossible real of it--that no matter how how impressive his layups or crossovers are, it will never show up on the stat sheet the way he plays.
ReplyDeleteI wanted to discuss the argument that was brought up about baseball being a better sport due teams like the Rockies being able to get to the world series. I can't recollect who made the argument initially. Regardless, you guys brought up a good point about teams being fun to follow irregardless of record and that certain players can also be a joy to watch as well. The NBA can shift dramatically via free agency or the draft. Unlike any major sport, an entire team can change with one player. Cleveland became relevent with draft choice and the knicks are surging after adding Amare and Felton. That dynamic does not always favor the upper echelon teams either. Much like baseball, you have elite teams that spend and other teams that need te right front office people in order to make the most of what they have.
ReplyDeleteI think the unpredictability of baseball makes baseball kind of meaningless. Watching baseball's postseason is like rooting for a bunch of guys to win a lottery. (The same's true of the Final Four.) Sure, if you're an idiot, when your team wins you can think that your team has been proven the best team because everything they did was so clutch and blah blah blah, the reality is that the reason baseball is so unpredictable is because winning the World Series is largely a matter of luck. Winning a baseball game is largely a matter of luck; that's why the best teams only win 60% of their games. Over the course of a 162-game regular season, talent does determine the standings, but once it comes down to who can post the best record in a 19-game playoff, outcomes become a matter of almost pure happenstance. I mean, it's a game largely defined by where you hit a ball, something that for the most part is beyond either the hitter or pitcher's control. But in basketball, I truly believe (outside of the Heat-Mavs Finals) that through the playoffs, we discover who the best team really is. And who the best players are - over the years the playoffs have revealed deep truths about Kobe, Olajuwon, Ewing, Duncan, Jordan, Carter, McGrady, etc. When Kobe and LeBron finally face each other in the Finals, we'll learn something about LeBron. When Cliff Lee faces Alex Rodriguez, it's a meaningful and possibly thrilling moment, but the outcome of those several at-bats doesn't really tell us anything about either of them. If half the league could make it to the Finals, making it to the Finals wouldn't mean anything anymore. Or at least it would mean something entirely different.
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