I Held Back. . .
I had many spiritual thoughts about today's Bryant developments, but left out the one trade scenario worth considering:
KOBE FOR KOBE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Think about it.
posted by Bethlehem Shoals @ 5/30/2007 09:45:00 PM
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32 Comments:
Like a video game restart?
Sounds like exactly what he needs.
Too bad it is physically impossible.
What in the hell is that last picture from? Anybody?
How can you trade Kobe to a contender, get back equal value, and have the other team still be a contender? To get equal value from Kobe you'd have to take so much from another team they couldn't be that good anymore.
That's the worst logic in the history of logic, I'm sure, but I can't get it out of my head.
Looks like Single White Female to me.
And I'm for it.
I see the Spurs lead the Jazz by 16 in the 3rd. How very real.
Imagine if Mamba is telling the truth here. Mamba says that Buss told him he wanted Shaq gone and lied about rebuilding, insisting that he would pay to build a contender. Apparently Buss's evil plan all along was to con the yokels into paying big money to see a team that was not quite good enough to be good, but at least exciting because of the spectacle of watching Kobe's career burned up like excess gas off a refinery.
Yet Kobe has been silent about all of this for years, allowing all of the LA press jackals to crucify him for running the beloved Shaquille out of town (at least to the extent the LA press jackals can; the occasional mildly negative coverage Kobe gets in this market would pass for fluffery in some Eastern markets, from what I've been lead to understand.)
Kobe is looking like a martyr, sacrificing career, good name, and relationship with O'Neal, relationship with the (national if not local) press, etc., all for some drunk dentist.
Does not compute. I will continue to believe that Kobe is at fault. After all, he's just so evil.
This whole mess just upsets me. You can't bring up the prospect of one of the biggest trades in NBA history and then rescind it eight hours later. All non-Lakers fans should be upset right now. Boo to Kobe.
How can I dislike watching the Spurs in close games but aggressively like them in blowouts? Maybe it has something to do with what Shoals said a few while ago about embracing identity.
big time...
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=981~2748~1998~1031~3002~617~1016~2789~2421~261~434~2798&teams=16~26~16~26~16~26~16~16~16~13~13~13
I realize it's better for the league if Kobe's team is competitive, which is why I've been promoting the Bynum/Odom core for KG since last summer, but am I really supposed to feel bad for him? I'm not sure where Buss and Kupchak end and Kobe begins, as wasn't it Chucky Atkins that said he was GM, right before he got traded? I find this all very amusing, really, although I hope it ends up with KG, Kobe or Paul Pierce saved this summer.
One final pic to add would be the Ally Larter character from the show "Heroes." (Jessica/Nikki)
As much as I dislike the Spurs, I don't understand why the NBA hasn't marketed them as the league's version of the Patriots. Everyone always complains about the NBA promoting players over teams; here's Stern's chance to cultivate a more team-oriented image for the Association.
Note: Tim Duncan = Tom Brady
Bruce Bowen = Rodney Harrison
Michael Finley = Randy Moss(?)
One more thing: I've owned "Iron Galaxy" by Cannibal Ox for a couple of years now, and I really, really like it. Has anyone else (besides me) heard it? And if so, what do ya think?
I think you should pace yourself with that album, because their next one is gonna drop around the same time as the Duke Nukem Forever soundtrack
I know. I heard that they broke up or something. Oh well, at least we have "Cannibal Oxstrumentals" to hold us over until the end of time.
oh, and this Kobe story, c'mon people--the whole thing's been dreamed up in Bristol, planned in advance; they cut Kobe a check for $500 K or something and he followed the script....
word verification: "pcigg", a politically correct swine
damn, my earlier comment, long quasi-eloquent rant got lost somehow: I'll summarize: Q: what is less freedarko than the ranting Stephen A Smith astride the dick of the San Antonio Spurs?
But really what trades can the Lakers have made these past few years? Minny seems to want nothing less than Tim Duncan and Manu Ginobli for Kevin Garnett. Jason Kidd woult NOT have made a contendor out of the Lakers. And the team was playing pretty good till everyone got injured. I like Kobe and have defended him even through everything, but he really just needs to shutup now.
I actually can believe that Kobe was telling the truth about the Shaq thing. I think that he has probably told Shaq this before, but that really wasnt the reason for friction between the two. Kobe and Shaq didn't get along because of their personalities (like plenty of teammates), not because of the whole running Shaq outta town. For some reason I really don't have a hard time believing this.
Karma's a bitch.
The Lakers were stupid to trade Shaq, even though he was old and expensive, but they would have to be brain dead to trade Kobe. Fuck the scoring--Lebron is the only player who possesses enough star power to compensate for losing Kobe. It aint gonna happen.
Sean,
The Can Ox album, The Cold Vein (minus a few of the songs), still gets burn in my deck. Vast's voice is kinda lame, and and he goes from a brilliant lyricist one minute, to a horrendous one the next, but they both did an impressive job of weaving together all of the themes of machine, flesh, spiritual, bird, etc. and applying them to bleak NY ghetto rap, which had gone downhill since all of the great QB rappers started falling off. Nas' Stillmatic is the closest mainstream attempt at something similar...it didn't work out that well for him.
But El-P was probably even more important than Vast and Vordul. The beats fit the album perfectly. The Cold Vein is his greatest production work to date and I don't see him topping it.
"Scream Phoenix" is retarded. And yeah, "Iron Galaxy" is cool if only because it contains this Vast line:
"let's talk in layman's terms: rotten apples and big worms, early birds and poachers..."
The Cold Vein is fantastic.
wv: hopewmi - Hope we meet in ?
for the love of god that cannot be the T.I. VS. T.I.P. cover.
This shit is a shame. I'm an unabashed Kobe fan. Meaning: I grew up with the Clips but was seduced over to the Darkside by Kobe. If not for the Laker lies he would have been a Clipper and I would have immediately advanced over to the next stage of being. But the Lakers fucked me on that! So they better not fuck me on having 24 in my market for every game. If they do, the Lakers are dead to me. Dead.
Everything on Kobe has basically been said, so I wanted to point you to Truehoop for Henry's collection of links on Duncan. I like many guys here don't really know what to make of the Spurs and - maybe unlike a lot of people - am not ready yet to make them the villain just because Bowen is an asshole and Manu falls down a lot.
Of course it all starts with Duncan, whose personality I really see in a new light thanks to his brilliant psychoanalysis of himself:
http://varopig.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!D57A18221146B6B5!118.entry
I don't think he's had a co-author or guide like Gilbert has for his blog, so sentences like "That is why I am a quiet person by nature. After all, it is difficult to think while talking" really impressed me.
Also check out the 7-minute Duncan/Popovich video Henry linked to. It does have that usual little NBA propaganda touch to it, but it does seem to shed some light on what the identity of the Spurs is.
Correction: As Henry has updated, the Duncan self-analysis was aided by a journalist. Still fascinating, though.
Whoops. I acutally meant "Cold Vein", not "Iron Galaxy". I do realize that the former is the album, and the latter is the first song. Sorry.
Cold Vein is sweet, but the new El-P is like Cold Vein coming out of it's cocoon. And don't anyone get pissy because it's more "accessible".
Yeah, I've read a lot of good reviews for "I'll Sleep When I'm Dead". I'm going to pick it up sometime soon.
Oh, by far my favorite track on "Cold Vein" is "Atom". It has a goofy menace to it that is kinda cool.
kobe, bynum, and cap filler for kidd and vince
lakers stay competitive (kidd, vince, and odom should stay in the playoffs); kobe, jefferson, mikki, and nenad win the division for the next five years (in which time they can find a free agent pg to make them contenders); and the league and kobe get kobe in bklyn.
stern is working on this as we speak.
Kobe would make a phenomenal GM, the next Jerry West. Ultra-talented guard turned incredible GM.
He's picked Iguodola, Boozer, BDavis, J'Oneal, Artest, Kidd.... good eye for talent, considering some of these guys are considered relative nutcases.
Imagine Butler for Artest, Bynum for Kidd, so you have Kidd O'neal Odom Kobe... sick.
Or, if Kobe signed with the clippers, Iguodola, Brand Kobe. Wow.
The new EL-P isn't interesting to me aside from the last 2 songs. He's trying too hard to please the Pitchforkers.
Smart Kobe comes out a time machine from the future that Jeff (Big Brains) Van Gundy built in order to assassinate Rik Adelman and return to coach McGrady, Smart Kobe and Ming Yao to seven consequtive Finals championships.
consecutive with 'q' = going from ashy to classy.
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