FreeDrafto #4675: Inner Dialogues

What follows is an abridged version of a conversation that occurred during the draft. You might also be interested in the fruits of Shoals's Deadspin efforts. More important than any of this, though, and possibly changing its entire complexion after the fact: MAYO&CONLEY&RUDY&WARRICK&ARTHUR=THE NEW HAWKS. There was that dream we were after.

Billups: That's some real type-a personality shit Paxson is rocking there. Making sure he's at the head of the table to carve the turkey and shit.
Billups: Heads are siphoning gas for a living; nobody gives a fuck about Stern's digital media initiative.
Billups: I saw Van Gundy today, btw. On 8th ave. My man said the Knicks missed him and he gave a black power salute.

Krolik: I get a Marvin Williams vibe off Derrick Rose
Brown Recluse, Esq.: Like, humble dude, talented, but overrated?
Billups: Or sleeper cell type dude who will activate in his third year?
Krolik: Not a lot of production, but upside and character
Recluse: CDR=Rashad McCants in that analogy

Billups: What do you guys think of Bilas saying B. Lopez is third best on the board?
Krolik: Lopez is terrible. He doesn't shoot short shots or mid-range shots, he's created his own hybrid post/mid-range shot. And his brother is much cooler.
Billups: How is his brother cooler!?
Ty Keenan: Robin's post game is the greatest thing in the world, if you like funny things.

Krolik: Shh...SAS is interviewing Rose
Recluse: I'm getting weird Marbury vibes from this interview....NOT A GOOD SIGN
Krolik: Here's Doris Burke...WITH YA MOM.
Billups: Doris has the Percocet slur. I'm with it.
Recluse: I'm worried the famed Rose quietness is really blankness. Not a good look for a point guard.

Billups: Doris embedded with YA MOMS.
Krolik: I could listen to Stephen A. say "With YA MOM" all day long
Ty Keenan: I hope Beasley autographs Stephen A.'s face

Krolik: Rashad and O.J. would make my year
Billups: Come on McHale. Trade the pick to Ainge for Scalabrine and tickets to Ice-T and Body Count reunion show at the Middle East.
Carter Blanchard: I like that he opted for glasses to look serious.
Billups: That's fucked up. Sad boy por vida.
Carter Blanchard: People with glasses can't be scandalous.
Billups: That beard makes him look like present-day George Gerivn.
Ty Keenan: He's just reinforcing the fact that he's older than everyone else in his class.
Billups: OJ Mayo is in a Power Station tribute band. TWolves in 09.
Carter Blanchard: OJ makes such a conscious effort to use "sir" whenever possible
Recluse: Somewhere P. Diddy is beaming

[The Sonics draft Westbrook]

Ty Keenan: MONRR strikes
Ty Keenan: He's a good defender and dunks on people
Ty Keenan: This is basically the equivalent of what I thought the Jeff Green pick would be

[Something about Love being related to the Beach Boys]
Billups: Which practically makes him Stamos' brother-in-law, right?

Billups: It's gonna go Apocalyptico if they draft Danilo or Brook. Danilo is gonna be on the run like jaguar paw.
Recluse: When Stern paused, you knew it was on
Ty Keenan: Stern's pause was like the turn in a Petrarchan sonnet
Billups: White knicks fans hate white people
Recluse: That dunk attempt they just showed was so pathetic
Billups: I love how dudes who cover european ball act like they're like the only people to have seen the ocean before.
Ty Keenan: This is why I think that all Euro experts need to tell us who they described in the same way

[SAS interviews Danilo Galinari]

Carter Blanchard: Is he shouting more because of the booing or because he thinks foreigners only understand retard-speak?

[Clippers draft Eric Gordon]

Ty Keenan: My dad just came in and said "fatty"
Krolik: Eric Gordon is Julian Wright's bowling ball

Carter Blanchard: Can we talk about the Yi thing a little? I think that's what's been messing with my equilibrium. Is LeBron a Net already?
Ty Keenan: It's a shame they're moving out of Jersey -- he'd be at home with the pollution
Krolik: I would also watch Yi and Jay-Z's reality show
Recluse: What reality show would you not watch, Krolik?
Carter Blanchard: I wouldn't watch a Donnie Walsh show
Recluse: I WOULD

Billups: Jay bilas has a secret Brook Lopez blog

[Dorris Burke interviews Robin Lopez]


[SAS interviews Brook Lopez]

Recluse: Is that really how people in California talk?
Krolik: No
Krolik: Sometimes
Billups: Vince Carter is the loneliest boy in New Jersey
Ty Keenan: Yi has to be psyched though -- I think Brook likes Shrek, too

[Pacers draft Jerryd Bayless]

Krolik: T.J. Ford will always have a better guard behind him, it's his destiny
Billups: Too bad he can't turn his head to see him coming up behind him
Billups: I'm going to hell
Ty Keenan: I'm pretty excited that Indiana drafted a light-skinned black guy
Ty Keenan: In keeping with their new organizational philosophy
Billups: It's an homage to draftin Reggie Miller at the 11th pick 28 years ago

[Blazers draft Brandon Rush]

Billups: What if Kareem ran up on stage and mimed a fadeaway shot just to undermine the kid?

Krolik: Nellie is on the clock. Ajinca/McGee watch is at orange

[Warriors draft Anthony Randolph]

Recluse: They have Anthony Randolph AND Brandan Wright?
Recluse: I hope they play those two together as their forwards
Krolik: Randolph will run point

Recluse: “Considerable linear extension in space”?
Billups: Jay Bilas is reading mad graphic novels

[The Suns draft Robin Lopez.]

Ty Keenan: He looks like Cecil Cooper with that hat on
Billups: His mom is Penny Marshall
Ty Keenan: This is okay though, because Robin really likes Kazaam

[Sixers draft Marreese Speights]

Billups: This kid and Thaddeus are going to bring peace to the universe.

[Pacers trade Bayless and Diogu to the Blazers for Rush, Jarrett Jack and Josh McRoberts]

Ty Keenan: It's like stern told indiana that they had to be boring as a negative example for the rest of the league

Carter Blanchard: Has everyone accepted that JO is washed up? am i the only one who's MONJOing Jermaine?
Krolik: I like him with Bosh, but I think his days of being a go-to post scorer are over
Billups: Yeah, he could have a real Val Kilmer-esque revival as a supporting actor.
Krolik: The age of the 7-foot post-up power forward is closing
Billups: Maybe Val Kilmer isn''t a good example

[Wizards draft Javale McGee, who is not in the building]

Recluse: No shit Javale's not there, I've never even heard of him
Billups: Darrell Arthur is welling up right now
Billups: JaVale is at the Kino parlor at the Sands in Reno
Recluse: OH SHIT! i remember that guy! that highlight brought it all back
Recluse: yeah, he was decent. weird.
Krolik: DraftExpress called him "maybe the worst defender we have ever scouted"

Krolik: here come the Cavs! CDR please

[Cavs pass on CDR and take J.J. Hickson.]

Recluse: NC State was so fucked up last year, you can't really tell anything from their season, but Hickson's good. Playing on a good team with a superstar will be good for him.

[Bobcats on the clock.]

Billups: Jordan takes CDR right?

[Bayless is interviewed about the trade and looks totally depressed]

Recluse: Why isn't bayless happy? the blazers are like 10X better than the Pacers, and Portland the city is like 1000X cooler than Indianapolis
Carter Blanchard: I think he's just kind of boring. Not necessarily upset
Billups: That would be awesome if after the camera cut away Katz turned to him and said, "You know you're upset you bitch"
Recluse: Katz actually told him, "Dude, they have unionized strippers in Portland, it's awesome."

Krolik: I'm rooting for Love to get some serious ink work before his rookie contract is up
Billups: Fernando Torres, from the Spanish soccer team, has his own name tattooed on his arm...
Billups: in Elvish
Billups: I'm hoping that's a trend that jumps the pond and catches on here

Billups: Darrell Arthur isn't gonna get drafted and he's gonna have to move back to One Tree Hill and work at his dad's garage

[Utah drafts Kosta Koufos]

Billups: Him and Mehmet are going to unionize the strippers in Salt Lake
Ty Keenan: Isn't that going to create some kind of greece/turkey rivalry?
Recluse: "don't ever talk about cyprus"

Billups: Doris Burke sounds like she's the Lopez sister.

Billups: This is kinda fucked up for them to be talking about a man's kidney in front of a bunch of white knicks fans who hate white people
Recluse: Wasn't this an episode of Diff'rent Strokes?

[Boston drafts J.R. Giddens]

Recluse: Wow, I forgot he existed. He was good at Kansas before he got in a bar fight and had to transfer
Ty Keenan: i could definitely see a masshole challenging him to a barfight
Recluse: The next ex-Kansas swingman to get stabbed in Boston?

Krolik: Larry Brown getting booed via satellite!
Recluse: Larry brown hates the draft
Krolik: Not as much as Chris Douglas-Roberts does

[Clippers take Deandre Jordan at #35]
Recluse: So much for MONAB

Krolik: Mbah a Moute over CDR?
Recluse: Let's just say that for every player now

Krolik: Sonny Weems?
Krolik: Good name right there
Recluse: Seriously, did CDR fuck someone's wife?
Ty Keenan: Stern's

[New Jersey finally drafts CDR]

Krolik: it's over
Krolik: really one of the most bizarre draft occurrences I've seen
Recluse: he's going to be huge in China
Krolik: now it's time for Walker watch

[Wizards draft Bill Walker at #47]

Ty Keenan: He found a wonderful home
Krolik: Him and DeShawn are similar
Krolik: Except Walker is awesome instead of evil
Recluse: More like big brother/little brother

[Warriors draft Richard Hendrix]

Krolik: Nellie with more 4s to bench so as to assert his power

Ty Keenan: pretty much everyone after pick 20 has blended together for me

[Wizards trade Bill Walker to the Celtics]

Ty Keenan: Between him, Powe, and House i'm probably going to have to start telling people that I like the Celtics bench

Krolik: Okay, last pick.
Krolik: Pick Davon Jefferson!
Krolik: It's a heartwarming story--"Athlete given every possible chance, given one more"
Krolik: Making it to the NBA without the benefit of enjoying conditioning or schoolwork
Krolik: I would watch Davon and Gerald Green's reality show.

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At 6/27/2008 2:46 AM, Blogger The Other Van Gundy said...

"On the run like jaguar paw" - fantastic.

I realized when the Bobcats were on the clock that I have never watched them play a game of basketball. Ever.

Got to mention Brook Lopez's night, though - the man tears as he slipped alllll the way down to ten. This guy purportedly has a mean streak? Fuck that, it's Robin who's going to get mean, he'll be playing with Amare and he clearly doesn't give a shit to begin with, considering his hair cut. How does Brook Lopez not know the coach of the Nets?

Do I have to watch the Nets, now that they shipped RJ?

Last thing: JVG clearly had no interest in being there.

Also: Stu Scott's crack about the kid from Rider was met with such a stony silence it was like he told a Holocaust joke. Too soon?

At 6/27/2008 3:39 AM, Blogger Krolik1157 said...

BTW, all, give the Recluse HUGE props for his editing work on this. I'm not even joking, the original transcript was 30 pages long, and he got it up in 3 hours.

At 6/27/2008 3:46 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

as requested- props to Recluse. Also, props for leaving in the TJ Ford joke.

At 6/27/2008 4:27 AM, Blogger Trent said...

CDR better have fucked George Shinn's wife, or I'm monumentally pissed at the Hornets for trading pick #27. "Ooh, CDR isn't gonna be there at 27. Ooh, better get more free agent cash..." Fucking soft. If we don't pull Rony in the free agency, I retire from Hornet fandom.
I hope CDR does get massive in China. Like all kids action toys start to look like him kinda massive.

At 6/27/2008 9:46 AM, Blogger avery said...

Why didn't Memphis just take CDR--or did they end up trading that pick?

At 6/27/2008 10:13 AM, Blogger goathair said...

Brook Lopez is Dirk Nowitzki, without the German accent. Kind of.


At 6/27/2008 10:49 AM, Blogger stopmikelupica said...

The Grizzlies just need to get contracted at this point, no? They cleared all that salary space in the Gasol trade so they could fill it with Marko Jaric's deal?!? And what is Mayo, their fourth "PG of the Future" on the roster? 4 PGs on the roster that were taken in the first rounds of the last two drafts (Mayo, Crittenton, Lowry, Conley).

Everytime I saw Mayo yesterday, I wondered if he was rocking a pocket watch with that outfit. I'm bringing back the pocket watch as bling.

The Jazz will no doubt have Koufus setting up on the South/east side of the court, and Okur on the North/west side, with Kirilenko acting like NATO, keeping the peace in the middle. Cyprus jokes never get old... take it from someone who recently went to see a soccer game with a Greek, a Turk, and a Macedonian.

The Brooklyn Nets are my favorite future franchise ever. Coming to Bucktown in 2011: LeBron, Ji, Aging Vince, Brook Lopez, CDR, Devin Harris, Sean Williams and his magic nickel bag, and undoubtedly another amazing pick next year.

For the record, white Knick fans hate Euros (it's called "We drafted Frederic Weis, remember?" disease), not white players. Ask one of these white fans how they feel about David Lee getting traded for Raymond Felton, and you'll see the difference....

At 6/27/2008 11:00 AM, Blogger Matt said...

dude has mad ween bootlegs made me friggin lose it

At 6/27/2008 11:02 AM, Blogger Joshua R said...

How long before OJ Mayo is traded for Beasley? Seriously, that has to be a strong possibility. During his interview Riley out and out admitted that he had to be sat down by his most trusted advisors and forced into taking Beasley and that he hopes Beasley can lose his immaturity sooner rather than later.

Mayo and Kyle Lowry (and perhaps another piece for salary cap reasons) for Beasley (and maybe Blount to sweeten the pot).

The Grizz still needs help up front, even if Darrell Arthur is there; I mean, they were starting Darko and Kwame Brown last year. Meanwhile, Riley can get his groomed future star in Mayo and be happy. I give it a week.

At 6/27/2008 11:50 AM, Blogger avery said...

wallace almost went to the raptors for ford.


At 6/27/2008 11:55 AM, Blogger Bethlehem Shoals said...

I had a vision of love. . . you'd think that Brown wouldn't want a point guard, since he drafted Augustin. But I already thought that Felton/Augustin was redundant, so why not get another one. And what team has a glut of them?

Memphis. Fucking. Grizzlies.

Can you even begin to comprehend:

PG: Conley
SG: Mayo
SF: Gay
PF: Wallace/Arthur
C: Gasol

With Batum off the bench. Jesus.

At 6/27/2008 12:10 PM, Blogger Joshua R said...

Batum is going to Portland in exchange for Arthur.

At 6/27/2008 12:32 PM, Blogger rebar said...

i'm just sort of perplexed about this draft. i don't know whether to celebrate the bayless/roy/spanish chocolate/aldridge/oden lineup, or to bemoan the loss of the telfair/foye/mayo/jefferson/? lineup

At 6/27/2008 1:26 PM, Blogger Joshua R said...

i'm just sort of perplexed about this draft. i don't know whether to celebrate the bayless/roy/spanish chocolate/aldridge/oden lineup, or to bemoan the loss of the telfair/foye/mayo/jefferson/? lineup

Why do you think they'd have played Mayo at SF at all? I could see Doc Rivers doing that, but presumably Mayo would play in the back court with Foye with Telfair likely coming off the bench and Gomes/Brewer at SF.

At 6/27/2008 2:16 PM, Blogger Ty Keenan said...

After reading the Simmons thing, I now realize that I meant Oscar Gamble.

And I was one year early on my prediction of Memphis awesomeness.

At 6/27/2008 2:39 PM, Blogger Brown Recluse, Esq. said...

I did a Google Image search on Cecil Cooper last night and was like hmmmm.....maybe he had an afro at a different point in his career. Gamble makes much more sense.

At 6/27/2008 2:54 PM, Blogger jawaan oldham said...

Btw, did we ever find out whose wife CDR was fucking?

wv: pchzqqjj---7'5" albanian center drafted with the first pick by the ny knicks in the 2009 draft, imprisoned for his role in pyramid scheme

At 6/27/2008 2:57 PM, Blogger Ty Keenan said...

I feel like I deserve a break because I wasn't alive for all but a few years of their careers.

I also can't tell everyone how happy I am that people at major media outlets are behind Robin Lopez.

At 6/27/2008 3:28 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

@jawaan- no kidding about CDR fucking someone's wife/puppy-killing habit. all i've seen is vague comments about his lack of lateral quickness or 'not true NBA range', neither of which seem like they'd only be found out now. he seemed pretty damned solid on defense at Memphis, and I'm sure i've seen him hit NBA threes in a game.
for a sec i thought he was going to be the next Rashad Anderson.

At 6/27/2008 4:27 PM, Blogger Sweat of Ewing said...

Am I the only one who's really excited about Danilo Gallinari to the Knicks? I think he's going to be a lot of fun to watch, especially for Dantoni. That Roster badly needs a passer who doesn't understand half of what the NY crowd is saying to him.

At 6/27/2008 4:47 PM, Blogger jawaan oldham said...

Oh, he'll understand what they're saying to him. Knick fans keep shit simple: "fuck you" and "you suck" are in that dude's vocab.

I'm trying to be optimistic about him, though. Donnie Walsh has this preternatural ability to draft white guys who can't play, but I don't think D'Antoni would have let him just arbitrarily draft the MONKV without knowing the kid could ball. So it could go either way.

At 6/27/2008 5:07 PM, Blogger Bethlehem Shoals said...

Sporting News column suggesting slogan/mantras for the new rookies. It's kind of like Quotemonger.

At 6/27/2008 5:37 PM, Blogger MC Welk said...

Are you talking about Chris Wallace playing power forward for the Grizzlies?

At 6/27/2008 5:41 PM, Blogger Bethlehem Shoals said...


At 6/27/2008 5:59 PM, Blogger Brown Recluse, Esq. said...

I believe Welk is referring to:

"PF: Wallace/Arthur"


At 6/27/2008 6:03 PM, Blogger Terry Shilton said...

The Twolves have become the Grizzlies, Jefferson is the post presence Gasol was, Foye is similar to Gay without the explosiveness, and they had Mike Miller, add Telfair who has some upside but certainly less than Mike Conley.

This team (Timberwolves has put itself in a rebuilding position again) just ask the Grizzlies how well this formula worked for them…

The Grizzlies get Mayo, which gives them a young core of Mayo, Gay, Warrick, Swift, Brown, Mike Conley, Kyle Lowry great young backcourt alot of high flyers this pickup sells tickets on a rebuilding team.

Mayo is Eventual star traded for Love,

Miller is expendable for two reasons Mike Conley, Kyle Lowry need playing time.

plus got rid of the horrendous contract of Brian Cardinal for the expiring contracts of Jaric and Walker which are somewhat tradeable and very buyout-able add a more reliable post presence via free agency,(with the money due Cardinal) fast forward one year and this is a good team... at least to watch

At 6/27/2008 6:07 PM, Blogger Bethlehem Shoals said...

Gerald. The comment before linked to an article saying that the Bobcats had been shopping him for a point guard. The Grizzlies have ten point guards. Now shut up and rejoice in what could have been.

At 6/28/2008 3:10 AM, Blogger Bethlehem Shoals said...

It came to me in a flash: CDR suffered from MONAM.

At 6/28/2008 3:59 AM, Blogger Nate Jones said...

First, I really love the Mayo trade for the Grizzlies. They just have to move one of their point guards now. I hope the Grizzlies move Conley and not Crittenton. A Crittenton and OJ Mayo back court would be a big, explosive back court. I don't know how many of you got glimpses of Crittenton, but the dude is real. It's funny how Stuckey and Crittenton were taken 15th and 19th respectively when they are probably both better than Conley (the 4th overall pick from that season) and Law IV (11th overall that season). The Grizzlies should send Conley to the Knicks for David Lee. Gives the Knicks the point guard the covet and brings David Lee into an uptempo young Grizz team. That's a win-win in my eyes

At 6/28/2008 6:24 AM, Blogger T. said...

by the way, I'm kind of beyond labeling things as FreeDarko or Non-Freedarko, but Nash, Barbosa, Thierry Henry, Baron Davis, Jason Kidd, Jozy Altidore and Claudio Reyna playing 8 v. 8 football soccer on a field in New York makes the head dizzy with all sorts of possibilities.

Nash said "BD was the MVP" - despite never having played soccer before. I've heard from people who know that Jason Kidd could've been at least a Division I elite soccer player (and baseball center fielder too)

At 6/28/2008 10:54 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Shoals, pls unpack CDR as MONAM. I'm not seeing how he's Adam Morrison or Anna Montana.

I say he's a (New)Rich Man's Bobby Phills, or the hedge fund Jeff Malone.

At 6/28/2008 1:16 PM, Blogger Bethlehem Shoals said...

The whole MON thing is a state of mind for scouts, GMs, etc. I'm thinking CDR dropped because people were worried about his lack of athleticism, which rendered his accomplishments late. I don't know, I was tired when I wrote that. Not sure I agree with it anymore.

At 6/28/2008 1:39 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

@T. - excited about Joey Dorsey? Morey says he thinks he's ready to play immediately, which combined with Mandry...wow. Forget teams with twin towers, the Rockets have twin defensive tackles coming off the bench. They are gonna UNMAN some teams next season. Plus, when Scola has to play a bit of center (and by bit, that may mean 25-30mpg, depending on Yao's lower body and/or Deek's foul trouble/senility), now there's an option at 4 after Landry besides Novak.

here's to Donte not becoming MONED.

At 6/28/2008 1:41 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oops, MONEG, that is. (the Rockets' last long tall salley who liked to shoot a lot of threes)

At 6/28/2008 2:50 PM, Blogger dizzle said...

t- the 8v8 was pretty awesome. baron was a fan fave for sure, but not much of a soccer player. all the stuff about how nash couldve been a pro soccer player seemed pretty much confirmed. i hate jason kidd, but have to admit he was pretty legit out there. it was an awesome event though, and in my eyes, nash is certified as a cool dude.

At 6/28/2008 5:00 PM, Blogger Carter Blanchard said...

My gossipy friend-of-a-friend story about Nash at a bar with UofA kids a couple years ago: the girl goes up to him excitedly and says something annoyingly fan-like along the lines of, "The Suns are my boyfriend's favorite team, he'll be so jealous I met you." He responds (not in a good mood, probably understandably), "Why aren't we your favorite team?" to which she has to admit that she's actually a Lakers fan. Sometime later she tries to get a picture with him to which he says, "I only take pictures with girls I go home with." Maybe there's a point in there somewhere about not pestering celebrities in public, but from that one girl's perspective, on that one night at least, he came off like a prick.

That said, the soccer match did sound sweet, and I'm sure he's a very cool dude on most days when he's not being bugged while trying to get his swerve on with barely legal college chicks.

At 6/28/2008 10:48 PM, Blogger T. said...

tredecimal - EG is really one in the long line of MONRT - starting with such luminaries as Matt Bullard, EG, Scotty "The Body" Padgett and Steve Novak. I wasn't sure that we need another 4 - (Scolandry + Hayes seems to be a good fill) - but back-up (or STARTING) point or back-up center seem to be a larger need. I'll wait and see - I trust Morey after last year's EPIC WIN draft.

dizzle - Supposedly ESPN was all over the game filming everything. I knew I had to see footage as soon as I saw BD wearing a Dodgers cap, glasses and high top reebok pumps. Interesting that Nike endorser Nash was wearing what looked like Copa Mundials (I wear those too - I think one of 3 pairs of adidas I have amongst about 120 pairs of Nikes)

At 6/28/2008 10:55 PM, Blogger The Other Van Gundy said...

@Carter: That possibly hearsay story about Nash only makes me like him more.


At 6/28/2008 11:17 PM, Blogger Terry Shilton said...

Anyone else think Eric "air" Gordon, is a walking, talking cabbage patch kid? just imagine how the man could fly if he wasn't bringing the spring collection of "baby phat" every time, he jumped.

Whatever workout your doing Erc, double the reps...

At 6/29/2008 1:20 AM, Blogger theheresyofthezone said...


Tell us how you REALLY feel. . .

At 6/29/2008 5:04 PM, Blogger Mortimer said...

I'm wonderin'...

If the Blazers lineup of:


Becomes TOO good, are they no longer Free Darko even if they maintain their natural style and flash?

Just like 'Can Nelly-Ball win', can a Free Darko team win? Does it matter?

The youth of the Blazers (added two 19 year olds and lost some 20-sumthins, getting even younger) makes them almost automatically FD, but doesn't being a good team kinda negate it?

I'm just wondering myself, because I love having a dream Free Darko lineup that can actually win, as a Blazer fan that I is...


At 6/29/2008 5:08 PM, Blogger Mortimer said...

Terry Shilton,

I think Eric Gordon looks a lot more like a GARBAGE PAIL KID over a Cabbage Patch Doll.

I always thought Gordon was a chubster, until the promo shots before and during the draft where he wasn't wearing a t-shirt under his jersey. He looked a lot more ripped than I expected...


At 6/29/2008 10:39 PM, Blogger Seth said...

I think a successful blazers team would still be FD.

but on the topic of what is FD, what do the acronyms stand for anyway? is the last 2 letters just the initials of another player who it is assumed you can figure out? thats kind of what it seems to me though im not sure at all

At 6/29/2008 11:52 PM, Blogger T. said...

@Seth -

Myth of the Next ____ ______

i.e. Myth of the Next Jermaine O'Neal or Myth of the Andrew Bynum

At 6/30/2008 1:09 PM, Blogger Gabe said...

Re: Acronyms

I've been interpreting it as "Miss Out on Next ___ ___", which has been making sense. GM's are terribly afraid to say no to guys when they might miss out on them becoming monsters.


The Blazers team I saw last year didn't strike me as terribly revolutionary in the way they played ball. I'm not liberated from my love of the Blazers, but their method of "play tough defense, and occasionally remember to push the ball" doesn't seem groundbreaking to me.

If anything, I think that team will be able to destroy in the halfcourt offense. Bayless and Webster/Outlaw bombing away, Roy driving and dishing, and LMA/Oden rebounding and doing some low post work.

At 6/30/2008 1:47 PM, Blogger Mortimer said...


Yeah, definitely nothing revolutionary about how the Blazers played, and I guess that wasn't what I was getting at...

More the 'youth' thing, and the fact that they reined in the athleticism and rawness of guys like Aldridge, Outlaw, and Webster, and had them thrive in a halfcourt set, where so many other youngins' who need to run and make mistakes and be free have withered when playing the 'slow' style...

WINNING with youth is a pretty new thing, and I think kinda FD-- not that I think that is the end all be all of Darkoness.

The only two younger teams in NBA history won a total of 31 games combined, I believe, and each of the main young Blazer players were able to 'be themselves' and not be killed by Olde Man NBA expectations...

Youth and style and expression seem FD to me, but I know it's all subjective, so I don't even mind if the Blazer babies aren't FD in the slightest, because I am a horrific homer.

Adding Bayless, Rudy Fernandez, and Batum (plus Oden) should add to the YouTube mixability of the Blazers this upcoming season, and that'll be nice. YouTube highlight mixes = DYNASTY.


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At 7/19/2008 11:41 PM, Blogger Double R said...

Some of the funniest convos I have ever read.Especially the Yi,Lopez brothers part.Oh and i have never sa a Bobcat game either.I had honestly forgotten who Emeka Okafor existed and that he played in the NBA still.Man i bet J-Rich misses GS


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